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60 Minutes transcripts...


 The Original   Willard Water
as popularized on
the 60 Minutes TV show on Nov. 23, 1980
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 This is the  "60 Minutes" transcript:  an impartial, basic overview of Willard Water.  60 minutes is a program known for their sharp investigative style.  They  looked at Willard Water and reported very favorably about willard water even though they could not understand how it worked. 

HARRY REASONER:
What's your problem, my friend? Dandruff? A calf with water belly?
Perhaps you want to grow a 32 lb. squash? Do you have emphysema, or
a painful burn? Well, if I told you I had something right here in this little
bottle of Doc Willard's Wonder Water that would solve all of those
problems .... you'd possibly say that's the same kind of talk I heard from
that snake oil salesman we ran out of town.

Well, if you went to Rapid City, South Dakota, you'd find a lot of folks
who swear by something they say will do all these things ... the wondrous
water of Doctor John Wesley Willard. Too good to be true, you say?
We went out to take a look .... with an open mind ... but on the alert for
the first whiff of snake oil.

HARRY REASONER:
What we found was a vat of hot brew being stirred up out back in a
truck repair shop and watching over it was Doc Willard who is not a
wizard, but a Professor Emeritus of Chemistry at the South Dakota
School of Mines. (Editor's Note: It is now produced in a modern facility
and is tested by the FDA in random visits to the plant to be certain it is
safe for human consumption. It has never failed the test.)

Here's what some folks say his "Real" Willard Water can do: Doc
Lemley says it's good for his emphysema. Chauncey Taylor used it on his
second and third degree burn. Ranchers give it to cattle to keep them
healthy. Farmers say it makes wheat grow better. A quail breeder says it
helps his birds grow faster and fatter.

DOC WILLARD:
People can't comprehend that this is possible and they're skeptics. And I
suppose I would have been the same way if I hadn't spent the past ten
years of my life living and sleeping with this water.

REASONER:
So what's in it that could make so many things happen? Well, a little
liquid road salt, that's what melts snow and rots your car, and sodium
silicate and magnesium sulfate and sulfated castor oil and then Doc
Willard mixes some of it with powdered lignite. What you have finally are
various mixtures called by different names: LA Water, (it has nothing to
do with that town in California, it means lignite activated water) or CAW
water, catalyst activated water. But it's all Willard Water, whatever it is.

DOC WILLARD:
Well, it's the calcium magnesium, polysilicate polymer with a castor oil.
....

REASONER:
Now that's chemist talk. You've already lost me.

DOC WILLARD:
All right. It's a catalyst that alters the structure of the water making water
behave in a manner that heretofore has not been reported in the
literature.

REASONER:
Whatever "Real" Willard Water is, we set out to visit some folks around
Rapid City who talk about what it has done for them. On burns for
example, producer Paul Loewenwarter talked with Chauncey Taylor
who scorched his leg doing some welding on an old oil drum.

CHAUNCEY TAYLOR:
The fumes in it, I guess, ignited and blowed out a hole and melted my
overalls. I had a pair of poly .. polyester overalls on and it melted them
and melted my shirt and burnt my leg.

PAUL LOEWENWARTER:
So you looked down and just saw your leg charred?

TAYLOR:
I looked down and the skin was just hanging all different ways there.

LOEWENWARTER:
Well what did you do to treat it?

TAYLOR:
Oh, I had a bottle of this LA Water and I just started squirting it on there
and just kept pouring it on, a fine mist.

LOEWENWARTER:
And what does it do?

TAYLOR:
It heals it I guess.

DR. RAY LEMLEY:
And I said now look, let's try this out.

REASONER:
Dr. Ray Lemley is a prominent surgeon, now retired, but still Chauncey
Taylor's family doctor. He told Chauncey to keep spraying the burn with
"Real" Willard Water. We wondered what the normal treatment would
have been.

LEMLEY:
Well you'd put different kinds of medicine on it. There's all kinds of
medicine for burns. Any housewife has a dozen and that would kill off the
new cells and damage the wound. It would be too strong, usually, and
burn it and interfere with the healing of it. This, we did nothing to interfere
with the healing of it.

REASONER:
Would the normal procedure be to graft?

LEMLEY:
Well, if you took him to the hospital they would have probably grafted
that by this time and by the time that he gets the scabs off of this and it's
all healed up, your place you took your graft off from it would still be
raw. So we're way ahead.

REASONER:
Chauncey's scab was all gone about three weeks after the burn, and
three months after that we dropped by to see the final results.

CHAUNCEY TAYLOR:
Well, it's all healed up.

REASONER:
Dr. Lemley does not just recommend "Real" Willard Water for others.
Several times a day he guzzles the stuff which, incidentally, tastes just like
water.

LEMLEY:
I have emphysema and I wanted to see if it would help that. I mix up a
jug of it, about three times as strong as it's supposed to be. So if it's
gonna hurt anybody, it would me.

REASONER:
The surprising thing is that Dr. Lemley, at 78, with emphysema, is
nonetheless able to pursue his hobby of paleontology, at which he's a
recognized expert, digging for fossils.

LEMLEY:
I don't walk too far for anything on account of my emphysema but I get
around.

REASONER:
And you would credit the water with part of that ability?

LEMLEY:
Well I've seen a lot of emphysema in my long years of practice and most
of them get worse all the time. And mine, it's a little worse than it was ten
years ago, but it isn't anything like anybody I've seen before.

REASONER:
(MUSIC) And then there's Vern Sheppard, a popular Rapid City
broadcaster, who used to miss weeks on the air every winter with a bad
throat. Now Sheppard sprays the throat with Willard Water every day
and rarely misses a day on the air.


JOHNSON'S DAUGHTER:
When I have pink eye in my eye I just squirt some LA Water in it and
then after a while it isn't so pink anymore.

RALPH WHITE:
I spray it on my head for my dandruff and I put it in my bath water and
drink some of it some of the time.

REASONER:
Because people are drinking Willard Water and pouring it on burns and
infections, we wondered whether this unlikely mixture has anything in it
that could do anybody any harm. We took samples to Industrial Testing
Laboratories in New York City. Their results were the same as other
tests. They found nothing harmful, either in the way of bacteria or metals
that could hurt you. But they didn't find much else either. So, what it
does, how it doe it, if it does it remains a mystery. It remains a mystery
even to the Chief Medical Officer of South Dakota's Department of
Health, Dr. Robert Hayes.

DR. ROBERT HAYES:
My professional opinion about it, of course, is, has been that a lot of
people use it. I've seen results of what they said it did. I've never had
occasion to use it on a patient. Have had no more opinion than that, sir.

REASONER:
You've never used it yourself?

HAYES:
No, sir. I haven't.

REASONER:
On the other hand, you've had no reason to assume it would hurt
anybody?

HAYES:
No, I haven't, as a matter of fact, Anything I've heard about it has been
nothing bad. It has always been on the positive side.

REASONER:
Would you like to see it tested, Doctor?

HAYES:
I sure would. I've in fact had a question in my mind why it wasn't tested
before and I, I think most doctors in this area who have patients who
have come in contact with it would like to see it tested.

REASONER:
Willard Water gets packed for sale at a kind of Willard family bottling
bee. It's not licensed in any way for sale as a drug or a fertilizer and state
agencies in South Dakota watch closely to see that no false claims are
made about what it can do. The little bottle costs three dollars, to be
mixed with a gallon of water the way most people use it. The biggest
commercial distributor of Willard Water is Tom Callahan. How much of
this stuff have you distributed?

TOM CALLAHAN:
Well, in the last four years, close to forty thousand of those ounce
bottles.

REASONER:
Have you had any trouble with regulatory agencies?

TOM CALLAHAN:
Yes. They've stopped the sale of it twice and I'm sure that we'd have a
lot more except that we have so much public opinion around this area
that when the first stop sale order came out the governor got hundreds of
letters from people that were very irate about stopping this product. And
they've more or less kind of let us live ever since.

REASONER:
About the only laboratory work on what Willard Water does, has been
done at the South Dakota School of Mines by Sister Marmion Howe, a
Professor of Biology.

SISTER MARMION HOWE:
I took some different species of microorganisms and tested them with
CAW or with Doc Willard's Water and without it and then I used
different antibiotics on it to see if Willard Water enhanced the action of
the antibiotic.

REASONER:
Does it?

SISTER MARMION:
Yes. I found that it did with certain organisms, not all.


REASONER:
The water also seemed to sometimes speed up the growth of bacteria,
doesn't it?

SISTER MARMION:
Yes, we found that out. Some of my students did some work on that.

REASONER:
Do you have any theories based on your tests as to why it does what it
does?

SISTER MARMION:
Well no, we need about a million dollars to do some studies on it but I
think the fact that this is a surfactant - or a detergent-like acting material
might make it penetrate a little bit more quickly and effectively.

REASONER:
Doc Willard developed the water as a cleaner. But he learned it could
treat burns when he burned his own arm on a hot plate, years ago,
dowsed it with his water, the sting disappeared, the burn healed. As a
cleaner, he heats up some of the water and soaks an engine piston in it
that's coated with carbon and the burnt on carbon comes off easily with a
rag. Normally that's done only with a lot of scrubbing that can damage
the piston or with harsh solvents that can be dangerous.

DOC WILLARD:
This we can take and bathe in it or drink it, if it wasn't so hot.

REASONER:
(SOUND OF COWS) Ranchers and farmers of Rapid City aren't
waiting for scientific proof about Willard Water. They're using it now
because they say it puts money in their pockets. At roundup time, Don
Taylor uses it on his calves when they're branded, spraying it on fresh
burns. The calves seem to quiet down right away. Taylor says it helps the
burns heal without infection, fewer veterinary bills. If there's a sick calf,
he'll get a stiff dose out of a pop bottle and ranchers say that Willard
Water can cure a calf that might otherwise die. Ranchers put it in the
wells, in drinking water, and cattle drink it year around. And it's said to
be particularly good as a kind of tranquilizer when calves are weaned
away from their mothers and become nervous, even frantic.

TOM CALLAHAN:
And we've seen this where you crowd these chickens together or quail
together how they quiet down and it definitely has an effect on the
nervous system and it isn't imagination with a calf or a chicken or a quail.

REASONER:
Quail that get the Willard Water don't bite and scratch each other the
way other quail do and Jim Dickey, who breeds quail in Rapid City, says
they gain more weight on less high cost feed.

JIM DICKEY:
They're plumper. They're a little heavier on Willard Water.

REASONER:
Out in the wheat fields there has been a little testing done by farmers like
Paul Zelfer who has one field with normal, untreated wheat and another
whose seed were soaked in the Willard Water before planting.

PAUL ZELFER:
From the start it was a better color and it came up quicker and it was a
thicker stand and it would yield more, would be more bushels per acre
and every bushel per acre means that many more dollars per acre.

REASONER:
Zelfer then took producer Loewenwarter into an untreated wheat field to
show him the difference.

ZELFER:
This here is the treated wheat and this is the untreated and you can just
see the difference in the hair roots. That's what feed the plant, that's what
makes them grow is them little hair roots. The proof is here, you can see
it. But what makes the plant do so much better with the water, I just
don't know.

REASONER:
(NUNS SINGING) You wouldn't expect an order of nuns to be a little
hot bed of Willard Water boosters but at St. Martin's Academy, the
Benedictine Sisters use it daily. And it's not just because one of the
members is Sister Marmion Howe, the Biology Professor we met at the
School of Mines. Many of the sisters bathe in it, drink it, treat burns with
it in the kitchen. And there's the garden where we found Sister Jenna
spraying and spraying with Willard Water last spring, hoping for
vegetables like the crops she had gotten in '79.

I understand you had some prodigious squash?

SISTER JENNA:
(A little embarrassed) Yes I did.

REASONER: What would be the size of a good, big squash?

SISTER JENNA:
Well my largest one was 32 pounds and a 25 pounder and from there on
down to 18 and I believe 15 was the smallest.

REASONER:
We couldn't resist going back this fall to see whether Willard Water had
worked in spite of the drought that struck the plains this summer. Sure
enough, monster squash, though not quite the size of the year before.

I'm no judge, but that's 20 pounds I'd say anyhow, wouldn't you?

SISTER JENNA:
I would say 20 at least.

REASONER:
It would make a lot of meals (LAUGHTER)

REASONER:
So here is Doc Willard, with a magic juice that people say works on
quail and squash and people and cattle and no scientific proof at all.

DOC WILLARD:
I've worked with some top flight men at other universities and they've
made the statement, as I have myself, "I see it but I still don't believe it."

REASONER:
Well, where do we stand? We haven't proved anything and we didn't
expect to. But we've met a lot of nice people and we found a product
that, everyone agrees, can't hurt you. Maybe that's enough. Besides,
anything made with road salt and castor oil can't be all bad.


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